For connection makers

Most connections have an option to view a list of chatrooms on MSN. So, why not have a list of groups on a connection (or external addon) like MSN does (ie: enter a keyword or see a list of groups available)?

Bottom line: Put this into an addon.

Easy? Prove it.

Pointless? Most mIRC addons are.

well in my connection and NuClearMSN, they both have the ability to get the "my groups list" so you have all the groups that the passport is currently joined to. So i don't see the point in having a searcher for groups.

It would be quite hard to do really , cause each country has its own set of groups and they are split into sub sections too

like uk is http://uk.msnusers.com/

and usa is http://groups.msn.com/

etc

Not to mention there are a variety of categories you would have to have it search for. Much like a web browser. You would have to make it to where you can type a search word, or phrase into a box ("MSN Connections" would produce group names containing msn connections). So, it would have to be something simular to a browser. It would be difficult, but I don't think it is impossible.

TGK - you have a list of the most recent chatrooms in Vincula, right? So why have a chatroom list?

Ozzy, the same can be said for MSNChat rooms (just with groups having more sub-categories) - each country has their own list, which are in turn divided into entertainment, computing, etc.

I reckon it's something to have a crack at anyway. I'm not too great when it comes to reading webpages using mIRC with sockets. Shame Vawluum isn't around...

you can't chat in a group room until you're a member, and you'll have to go there in a browser to do that first anyway, after which both tgk's and my connections will automatically add it to the internal list.

it's no good listing groups in a connection that can't get in.

Why would you have to do it through a browser to register?

*goes to research*

well the groups lists are a lot longer that msn room lists

cause most ppl moved to groups

imagine the lag when listing

you can't chat in a group room until you're a member, and you'll have to go there in a browser to do that first anyway, after which both tgk's and my connections will automatically add it to the internal list.

 

it's no good listing groups in a connection that can't get in.

That is true. NGen 2.0.5 will add all the groups that you are a member of as well. However, like vex said, it would be of no use to add groups you aren't a member of since you won't be able to chat there, anyway until you do become a member there.

warrior check ya email about ngen 2

Thanks, Ozzy_10. I found out that Vincula NGen 2.0.5 isn't ocxless yet as I thought it was. For some odd reason it was using the msnchatx.ocx that ClearMSN had in a completely different directory. I have no idea how it did it, but that was what it was doing. I also specified that in the ocxless toturial I made. I'll keep testing, and hopefully get it fixed.

I have not studied this deeply, but it appears to me that the ocx comes to life by having it's guid referenced in a web page that the script navigates to. If this is so, the information on the location of the ocx is in the registry (it gets set when the ocx is registered).

So, in order to get rid of the ocx you would have to take out all references to it in the web page navigations.

It is also my understanding (but I am not certain) that the ocx is used during the signon/authorization process. If that is true, then you would have to add equivalent code into the script if you remove the ocx from the process.

If I'm wrong about all this you can smack me , but maybe it will help your search.

the OCX is used by some connections to auth on the chat servers (the connection spoofs a webpage and captures information sent from the OCX). but in order to do that with it you have to make it connect to 127.0.0.1 (localhost). the actual msn OCX refuses to connect to anything but the actual chat servers, so there is a 'cracked' OCX that the script has to register in the registry instead of the actual one. but the cracked OCX won't work on msn chat in your browser, so the script has to re-register the real OCX when it's done using the cracked one. that's why there is a MSNCHATX.OCX file with some connections -- thats the cracked ocx.

Thanks for the info, vex. I also thought that they changed the guid of the cracked ocx so you could have the standard ocx and cracked ocx both registered at the same time. I can use Vincula and standard msn chat at the same time so I'm pretty sure this is right. Of course, there could be more than one version of a cracked ocx floating around.

is this the sort of thing you had in mind cleric?

http://www.angelfire.com/home/madegames/MSNGroupList.jpg

Nice addon.

Yup. Looks good.

My friend made a connection using kozzys boxcar.dll i dont think it uses the msnchatocx or anything like that

thought i would have a play for an hour

and this is how far i got

problem is , each sub cat has several pages , so thats going to be fun getting them all and each country has a diff set and link lol

at the moment its getting the usa lists