Cloning on Buzzen?

Everybody that posts something about "THE CHAT THAT WE DARE NOT SPEAK IT'S NAME" has a point. Take off your selective reading and read the whole post. I've managed to ask a few questions, and your response are:

'Your a moron'

'Go read before spouting off'

'Your wrong.'

I'm wrong? Inform me of how I'm wrong when you keep playing yourself over and over. Come up with a new statement on why you keep managing to use and lawfully defend the use of the ocx. I tell ya what, take time, relax, read some things over and tell me how you consider calling me or any others that question your chat service 'morons.' I bet Bill Gates doesn't call people morons when they badmouth Microsoft (which believe me, happens alot.) So, before you call yourself an entrapenaur, or consider yourself a leader in the chat/webchat industry, I think you better think your so called 'philsophy' and people skills over, because as you've made aware by calling myself, who had a legitimate and valid question a moron, your not the greatest in any of those fields, and I wouldnt call you a brainiac by any means when it comes to anything except for maybe manipulation. And even then, I'm keep those words soft and sweet, because braniac is a stretch.

um jay they have had the exact same stance on it from the beginning. the only side i see changing is from people on your end trying to find loopholes to make their argument invalid..

The situation was inflamed by your side. At first you try to act as if you are here to answer their questions. But they got no answers. Instead what they received was falsehoods and redirection. So each time they ask "the same" questions they get a little more heated about it.

either answer the questions they pose or just tell them you aren't going to. That will end this little absurd game either way.

Most of us know the answers

You aren't going to admit to doing anything wrong at all, ever.

You know what you are doing is wrong Unless that is you are a moron that doesn't understand basic copyright law.

Buzz en is going to use the ocx until they are forced to stop. I doubt MS will ever do that so I guess everyone better get used to the idea.

I do have one last question for Jay oh and YAHOO you can jump on this one do as you run the forum. If i came to "THE CHAT THAT WE DARE NOT SPEAK IT'S NAME" and started calling it's users morons repeatedly, what would happen to me?

All you know how to do is attack people that dont share your opinions. So unless everyones agrees with you, its not possible for you to stop. 

kinda like calling people morons when they don't agree with you?

I was going to bring that up also. Or labelling everything they say as 'bullshit'

Jay, quite honestly alot of people have called me all types of names for expressing my opinion on this. Alot of people have applied pressure and even threats to get me and others to be quiet. People have even tried to bully techgear and other scripting forums into silencing our freedom to express that we don't like people unethically and illegally building a webchat business on someone elses copyrighted chat software.

What I have seen from you Jay is misleading and contradictory statements, brash name calling such as morons and bullshit, and then you accuse me of name calling? No. Your accusations fall back onto you, Jay.

In ending, I continue to hope that you will do what is ethically right Jay...that is openly and honestly admit to your buzz en users that your decision to clone msn, and unethically and illegally use msn chat software as the basis for your own webchat was a wrong choice.

You have the potential to influence alot of people in a postive way Jay--by openly and honestly owning up to your past mistake. I continue to hope that you will do this, because our world desperatly needs moral and ethically minded leaders for our youth to look up to and follow.

And Jay above all else, you seem to be a person who wants to be a leader--so be a good one. Upfront, honest, and ethical, openly admitting to, and turning away from past mistakes. I am willing to bet that you will feel good about yourself in doing this, and others(who are on the verge of leaving because they feel lied to and tricked) might find a renewed sense of respect for you.

The waves are just fine.

And your opinions are about as useful as a grain of sand that washes up with those waves.

Just admit that you all keep attacking "THE CHAT THAT WE DARE NOT SPEAK IT'S NAME" because its either

1) Good for techgear traffic.

2) Because its "Fun"

Only person I have ever seen attack this that has any morals is Deanne. ( assumtion by the power of her conviction)

The rest of the specific group I am talking about are hypocrytes.

Well Chuck we all know that is standard techgear responce to "THE CHAT THAT WE DARE NOT SPEAK IT'S NAME" topics.

So nothing new there.

So, how am I a hypocrite? You have YET to answer my question. Stop beating around the damn bush and let myself and your users know what the deal is. And no, we're doing just fine without Buzz en. Do you not remember how clean and calm the posts were before that one "THE CHAT THAT WE DARE NOT SPEAK IT'S NAME" topic came up? Yeah, I know, you dont. I'm not attacking Buzz en, I'm attacking you personally now. You know why? Because your leaving yourself so open to contradiction, it's not even funny. You've managed to stake fame on an old, tired out ocx and consider yourself a big guy in the chat nation. I can't wait till you get a reality check and you open your eyes.

Chuck, as far as your posts go, thats just what I'm talking about. Buzz en staff providing more non-slanderous, untamed and tainted things to sway things off course. Kthx.

You in particular just love to cause shit.

Im sure its alot of "FUN" for you.

Jay, more than once I've heard you commend me for the strenght of my moral stand on this issue, even though you say you don't agree with it.

That is one of the things that continues to give me hope that you will also find the strenght to do what is right in all of this. People WILL respect you a great deal, if you find the courage to be a REAL LEADER and stand up and openly admit that what the msn clone webchats have done is unethical, illegal, and a mistake that you now regret.

Good luck in the future Jay, and I'll continue to hope that we will get to see you be the GOOD LEADER, you are meant to be. A leader that people can look up to and respect for his high morals, ethics, and honestly. These are the foundations that the businesses of the future are building on--because that is what people of our world respect.

error i would censor the word like you do, but as you know untill that situation arises i can not say what other action i would take!!

And "THE CHAT THAT WE DARE NOT SPEAK IT'S NAME" sounds like a good name for a chat server bet it would draw nosey users lol!

Iam a big fan of Jay. Buzz*en rocks you guys are jealous from Buzz*en. Jay i want to be a Sysop in Buzz*en what can i do ? donate 50$ for 1 year? then iam Sysop for 1 year?

Awe, see what I mean. You cant answer a question can you? Thanks for righting my opinion on this whole issue and where you stand. I hope other people see this, and realize what the deal is. Thanks again for showing your sheer brilliance, and your social maturity. Have a good day.

LOL

I have already answered every question I need to answer.

I wont answer anymore on the subject.

You really think people are nieve enough to buy that statement from you?

Terrible that you have to pay for a .gif icon next to your name, isnt it Luky?

And whats there to be jealous of? IF i was to be jealous of anyone, it would be what MS did with the ocx, not him ..

And I love how you can continue to try and turn this around on people that have legitamate statements Jay. You cant answer the question on this forum because you obviously dont have an answer that would right your actions. No, instead, you feel a need to slander and resort to mud slinging in order to divert users away from the real issue at hand. Right? Right. Of course, you'll call me a hypocrytical moron, say I'm a VSIXc supporter, someone will come and tell me I'm jealous, and I'll need to pay 50 bucks for more responses from a money hungry person, riiiiiiiiight?

*Yawn*

So how about them Mets?

LOL

 

I have already answered every question I need to answer.

I wont answer anymore on the subject.

 

You really think people are nieve enough to buy that statement from you?

Buzz en Admin_Jay:

1. Did buzz en obtain permission from msn to use the ocx?

2. Is it legal for clones to use the msn.ocx for their webchat?

3. Is buzz en legally using the msn.ocx for webchat?

*Yawn*

So how about them Mets?

GO COLTS!

umm jay after the "THE CHAT THAT WE DARE NOT SPEAK IT'S NAME" topic died down it was YOU that brought it back to life so how is it that we did it lol. ozzy actually warned qwen to quit rehashing it until you opened a post about it. This whole clone a nick thing got our standard response. we don't help people try to disrupt chatters. Same with the flooder issue. We do the same as we did for msn. we told him that's not what we are about.

but i do admit i find debate interesting and i do find the whole subject of "THE CHAT THAT WE DARE NOT SPEAK IT'S NAME" ocx funny for the most part. I do take exception when you start talking about techgear because of the opinions of some that use the forum. I've been balanced in what i do. Now you want to question myself and my site? You want to call our users morons? pfft. and lol @ u

X-Fusion i want to ask some question about "THE CHAT THAT WE DARE NOT SPEAK IT'S NAME" from jay my english is poooooor so please understand and ask him. My friend i don't mention his name he buy a chatroom in "THE CHAT THAT WE DARE NOT SPEAK IT'S NAME". when he pay for the chatroom for some reason he don't visit his room . After 2 weeks later the room is not in list and when he join that room its want to create. He going to BSR helpdesk and they said for supporting a chatroom you need to idle there. looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool. My friend also don't understand the policy for Buzz*en if they want us to idle there then what we pay for? 2nd think on my view "THE CHAT THAT WE DARE NOT SPEAK IT'S NAME" thinks they rocks but tell me 1 thing when msnchat alive wherez buzz*n then? i bet if msnchat he reopen again they die within 1 sec. Last thing is they use msnchat ocx and its not good its a crime even in future no company will accept bu*zzen to with contract with them or give him advertise. So there is not good image of "THE CHAT THAT WE DARE NOT SPEAK IT'S NAME" at this time and in future too because they start with msn ocx. And last thing if they made his own ocx its good if they but they never ever beat microsoft ocx. Because MS is best and rocks. MS is a big company and legends of computers. thats all