Buzzen Chats New Layout and Design.

sounds good chuck thanks for the update

Some people are calling our ajax client as ocx, thats not a problem really... I think users in general don't really care what you call it as long as they like it.

I would agree with you there. I don't see why it matters. OCX... AJAX... Whatever. As long as it gets the job done. Plus, I know a lot of chatters aren't very smart when it comes to computer tech stuff, so why confuse them after all these years of calling a webpage (that shows you an interface to chat on) AJAX? They know it as an OCX, so they might as well stick to it.

90% of chatters don't care how it works as long as it's easy for them. the other 10% of us g33ks will argue about every detail lol

90% of chatters don't care how it works as long as it's easy for them. the other 10% of us g33ks will argue about every detail lol

Waits nervously for Gwen to show up

Waits nervously for Gwen to show up

x, I was here and gone already, page 2, you missed me (see below)

I am happy to see Buzzen de-cloning. The new beta flash chat looks good. It has some nice options. Good work.

No .. I saw that, I was waiting for an arguement to break out.

I'm still waiting

We don't argue here. We just discuss controversial topics.

I think not having to download a chat control is a plus for them.

We don't argue here. We just discuss controversial topics.

I think not having to download a chat control is a plus for them.

But still the idea of hard-hitting discussion between Gwen, err0r and other people is truly tantalizing.

But still the idea of hard-hitting discussion between Gwen, err0r and other people is truly tantalizing.

lol (err0r should we meet to discuss the terms and positions of our next discussion, or should we just dive right in??)

From what I can see its END OF DISCUSSION now

We have good protection against SQL attacks, and we are constantly monitoring and updating against any other kind of security exploits. In any case, AJAX is much better than ocx (or any other executable) from client-side security point of view.

Not true.

Ajax is only a very new technology, and the beta of Buzzen that I seen is very very very ... very slow to load. Today, OCX are really warned by browsers, and could be signed. I remember the old years when all ocx could be load with not any warn. Today, ocx are no longer a security hole for users. But ajax used with a chat server, could create new security holes, currently not know on chats with ocx. And be sure that in the future, as ocx was limited by browsers, some ajax stuffs will be limited too. The good point of ajax is that it's an open system, and others operating systems can use it. But client-side is penalized by long loadings, by refreshs which consume resources, and an absolutely NOT proven safety. OCX is faster, secured, and stable. And even if ajax could allow others operating systems, as it's a really new technology, it's not compatible with many old browsers. Try to load an ajax chat on IE 5.5, and try to load an ocx chat on IE 5.5... It's only an example, but IE = 80% or more of users, and IE 5.5 is the very last IE for some Windows versions.

Other point is that the real security is not the client only, but the server too. And I dont like what I seen about that. I'm sure it's possible to do a really good client-server system using ajax, but, for me, it's not the case about buzzen v2. I imagine that I should say that it's a good thing to not copy msn, however I think that it's still worse like that.

Lastly, I think that the users of buzzen precisely seek the copy of MSN, and that once this change then finished, buzzen will lose its integrity and maybe more.

I excuse myself for my bad English, this language is difficult for me, but I wanted to deliver my opinion.

ok gwen pick your side i'll take the other.. let's get it on!!!! lol

I want a good clean fight. No below the belt shots, no vulguraity. Anything else is alright.

LETS GET IT ON!

[/Mills Lane]

1 of the new themes more in the works!

IMHO, the emoticons look like the ones from those spam/popups you find on crack or real annoying sites.

and you would know

You wouldnt? Have you ever been to any of those sites that are infested with popups that talk to you? Normally those emotes lead the way ..

I don`t know wot they look like on those!

But all those you see are my work and still on going!

I sort of like the look of their emoticons... They're sort of a cross between IPB style and MSN Chat style lol... I just like the face ones though.. not the object ones