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I'm just getting into nicklists...not having any real clue on what is what.....I've fully avoided them in the past, as I liked the stability of the default one in vincula. except, that lately, more and more people are using heavily encoded nicks..which are terribly difficult to read in vincula..

 

Clearmsn does a great job on its nicklist, decoding the names so you can read them.. and it seems as stable as the vincula one. ..I'm wondering how difficult it is, to change from an encoded nicklist like vincula has now, to a decoded one like clearmsn ?

 

I've tried the new nicklists on techgear..and while they look great, they lag me, and conflict with my script detector on the /who ..so I'd rather stick with the default nicklist, simply showing a decoded name, instead of encoded.

 

Any help would be welcomed.

Thanks,

Gwen

I think that ClearMSN has a less buggy nicklist than others because unlike most other nicklists it doesn't have nicklist icons. That way, it doesn't have to do much more than retrieve the decoded nickname.

 

I'd be a bit buggered with my answer if it does use icons

 

actually , the reason it works well in cmsn , is because the decoding is built into the connection which makes it better

As to decoded nicklists with icons , i have 4 scripts with them in and i dont see any lag, it just depends how its coded and if it shows the profile icons

cause it has to get the profile icons a diff way

 

and my nicklists use /who and they dont interfer with the rest of the script

 

and actually it is possible to change the vinc nicklist to decode the names, but then you need to do a lot of other changes too

Edited Dec 10, 2004 5:22 PM by OZZY_10â„¢

My code does NOT have bugs. It just develops random features.

the nicklist in clearmsn is actually just mirc's regular nicklist. the reason it shows decoded nicks is because clearmsn receives the encoded nicks from the chat server, decodes them, then passes them on to mirc. so mirc thinks the decoded nick is actually the nick in the room. you can do this in raws 353 and 352 in vincula's msn.server sockread. but if you do that you also have to store all thre real nicks in a hash table, and convert every command sent from your client so it performs the command on the real nick, not on the decoded nick. which is a lot of work (believe me). so you're better off using a decoded add-on nicklist, if you want to stick with vincula.

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Couldnt someone make addon for decoded nicks without the icons?

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lol molson, wouldn't that be nice.

ty everyone for your comments and help.

 

Ozzy the problem I'm having with the nicklists doing the /who is that the script detector I'm using is set up to alert on raw 352 ...so that when I join a room, I'm automatically alerted who's using what. .....So of course, each time the nicklist does a /who..I get stuck with the detector going off.

 

Easy enough to fix I guess..stop using that detector or maybe just set a variable which halts it from sending, unless the /who comes from the script detector itself...but it turns into a mess, in a busy room....the detector /who and the nicklist /who at the same time..and then you get raw 352 warnings back from 10 people instead of just the one person you tried to /who with the detector.

 

All in all...I'd be willing to just fix up the detector coding to work with the nicklist....but the lag on the nicklists thenselves bothered me... I'm not sure why its lagging so much, but the time and ping replies are coming back like at 20 seconds each....2 minutes once. It took several seconds for the whole list to load..I only saw my own name in the nicklist for nearly 30 seconds. Isn't anyone else getting that trouble?

 

Anyways...ty vex for your help. It does sound rather work intensive...sigh, not sure what to do now...kinda liking molsons idea :-)

 

Thanks, :-)

Gwen

 

 

well something like kenboi has.

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Gwen, and Molson. I have submitted my MSN Simple Nickchat to Techgear. So, hopefully it will be up soon. The nicklist doesn't use icons, and decodes the nicknames in it.

 

Cool thanks Warrior.

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great ty warrior, I'll watch for it.

 

i really prefer using decoded nicklists that r made within dialogs and normal list controls. they dont lag with or without icons and you dont need hashtables, u only code it to set a variable with the real nick, when u left click the correspondant decoded one in the list box.

Edited Dec 11, 2004 11:41 PM by [::X-System::]

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Warrior, about the nicklist you uploaded. I cant seem to get it to work right.

Edited Dec 12, 2004 2:10 AM by Molsonâ„¢

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Warrior, about the nicklist you uploaded. I cant seem to get it to work right.

I tested it out before I released it, and it works on mine. Can you tell me if it gives you any errors, and what the messages say, and such?

Edited Dec 12, 2004 3:30 AM by Warrior124

* /dll: unable to open 'C:\Program' (line 49, MSN_Simple_Nickchat.mrc) But its not located there.

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It sounds like it is trying to open the mdx.dll in your script folder, and your script folder is located in C:\Program Files. However, the "$shortfn" part should've helped with that. Is your script folder located somewhere in "C:\Program Files"?

Yes it is in program files.

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Okay, that seems to be the problem then. Although, like I said, the $shortfn should've worked for that. If you can, relocate your script to a folder that doesn't have spaces in the folders name for now. I'll do some tests to try to find out what is going on.

Seem there was an missing file,MDX.DDL.Also your idea worked, thanks.

Edited Dec 12, 2004 9:11 AM by Molsonâ„¢

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Hi warrior, the simple nickchat seems to work great, ty :-)

The one trouble I've run into..is that I thought it was causing my mIRC to freeze up..as when I opened another browser window and the mirc was automatically downsized..it wouldn't open again. So I thought it was frozen.

 

After a few times like this, I realized that if I right click on the mirc and choose to 'restore' it, that it would open again.

 

Not sure what is up, its a pain, is it something to do with the simple nicklist codeing, do you think?

 

Thanks,

Gwen

my mirc does the same thing. i have learned to deal with it. i dont think its a problem with the scripts, just mirc or a compatibility thing with the DLL maybe.

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